What blasphemy is this? In my ear I have a producer telling me when we have interviews, drop-in features, ad breaks and cue points.. Mark Cavendish crossed the line first, and said Kittel came up to slap him in the back. And its only the past year that we even get to see more than the Tour de France. According to the Telegraph, cyclists and joggers could be targeted as part ofa new Government initiative to work out who is leaving waste behind in countryside. We have a quiet conversation about who is going to win today. Kittel is still the fastest guy out there, but when he turns on the taps there is going to be a point when his maximum capacity starts to diminish. Eurosportreports that Kenny expanded on the incident on BBC One today, saying: Someone felt they had right of way and decided that gave them the right to kind of jump on the throttle and drive at us, which was a scary experience. For me Kirby has the key ingredient I need from a commentator. The commentators day doesnt juststart when the racing does, with research and planning underwayas soon as breakfast is taken. The major problem with this is that you cannot follow a race he is commentating on unless you are watching it - i.e. All rights reserved. But Kirby is only interested in his own narrative: McEwen told him twice that Herrada had won, but Kirby kept eulogising about Batistella's 'win', even as Herrada celebrated further coming past the camera. Its that melting pot of information that you get on-site. Especially on the downhill runs which is a crazy situation. In the early 1990s he became a freelance commentator. ), peppered with the repeated clichs (just see how many times he says 'puppy paws', joining the party or a dozen or so others). All material FarrellyAtkinson (F-At) Limited, Unit 7b Green Park Station BA11JB. 2.4K views, 20 likes, 3 loves, 5 comments, 3 shares, Facebook Watch Videos from Eurosport: "The pictures were all over the news. It is all clearly not set in stone at the moment, and I hope that I'm not going to have some sharp intake of breath moments on commentary just because bikes are needlessly endangering the lives of cyclists. You must log in or register to reply here. Personally I think Harmon and Brian Smith are the best team. Carlton learnt his trade as a commentator in Motorsport and Speedway while the holy trinity of Phil Ligget (ITV), David 'Duffers' Duffield (Eurosport) and Hugh Porter (BBC) had all the cycling tied up between them. She got hit by a car and thats someones mum, not just a cyclist. And anybody who has watched one unfold on TV will recognise the frantic speed of the commentary as the race reaches its climax. A football match lasts for hardly ninety minutes, a rugby match is over in eighty minutes, whilst a basketball game takes only thirty-eight minutes to finish. Always the hardest and most challenging role in such types of games is of a cycling commentator. If you are not interested you can unsubscribe at any time. From the Eurosports studios in London, covering the tour is not the same as waiting at the finish line. They have produced some merchandise like cycling caps and badges, they get together at Carltons events. I am very sorry but he is just nowhere near the standards of messrs. Liggett, Boulting, Miller and Hatch. JavaScript is disabled. PLEASE CONTACT EUROSPORT/GCN INDIVIDUALLY AS WELL AS SIGNING, BECAUSE THAT WILL PROBABLY HAVE A GREATER EFFECT. Tel 01225 588855. I make notes of the corners, pinch points, danger points, acceleration points, attack points all of those things.. Astonishingly though, a single stage of the Tour de France lasts for about more than six hours. Whether they be dusty in the summer or wet in the winter, motorcycles are far too dangerous and get far too close to the bikes. I have been speaking to (former cyclist and Eurosport expert) Sean Kelly about it at various races, and we have both had hold your breath moments. There is no editing process, except between the brain and the larynx. CK:As a commentator, you dont have a great deal of contact with the riders. I just wish we had Liggett and Kelly doing the Grand Tours. Absolutely mad. Thus concentrating becomes a difficult job for a commentator. Teams have been announced for May's Tour de Yorkshire and the Asda Tour de Yorkshire Women's Race. We have seen far too much of it - near collisions as much as actual collisions over the past few years. Juan Antonio Flecha and Johnny Hoogerland were sent into barbed wire on the Tour de France because the France TV van was about to hit a tree having a run out of road, but took the softer option of the riders. Carlton Kirby pete54 Posts: 488 March 2014 edited October 2019 in Pro race For all those who can't stand Kirby's 'commentary' (must be everyone on Bikeradar? So many other cycling commentators on Eurosport. Especially on unstable surfaces. Having spent over 25 years in the field, he has seen a lot, as many other countless commentators have seen. His voice tends to wake me up from my nap when something happens. (Clarke is a very good rider, but there is nothing to suggest he SHOULD have won the 2016 M-SR. Watch the race.). Like in any other sports, being a cycling commentator for a broadcast has its own perks & lows. Terms and conditions of use. And then, you hang a look at anyone who is there to find out if theyre going to listen to you. Plus security bikes, plus rolling paramedics. Are you sure? All the news from the site and beyond as we start a new week. 14 Aug 2020. Don't miss a moment from Paris-Roubaix and Unbound Gravel, to the Giro dItalia, Tour de France, Vuelta a Espaa, and everything in between when you Well over a 1000 signatories on that petition now. That is exactly what has happened now. Id love to see this Eurosport commentator substantiate even 1% of the outrageous claims he makes. I am having this problem too. Discovery through its international sports unit, it operates two main channels Eurosport 1 and Eurosport 2 across most of its territories, and streams on Discovery+, which superseded Eurosport Player. So, you have to ask yourself: What is different, and why is it worth it to actually go on-site? Create a personalized feed and bookmark your favorites. I'm not sure if they have forgotten about the rule, or if it was always just advisory. Hes done it four times, and I think he might want to do it again on the Champs-lyses. After a long journeyback to the hotel, often punctuated by Kelly taking media calls especially on the stages he himself would have thrived on during his career its then a debrief over dinner and back to bed for a seven-hour sleep and restarting the process again the next day. Carlton's voice is familiar to fans of Motorsports and Cycling both on British Television and throughout the world. It is a free-for-all. Ill be making notes when Sean Kellys driving, which can be a difficult thing! And thats where comes the utterly significant role of the commentator who not only has to fill the huge time span but needs to stay alert at all times. When we drive to the finish well usually get on the course, because were badged up to do it, and then make notes. It is a thrilling climax and its my job to convey that to the public. You are calling the race as you see it on the screen. And within the second group, he sprints hard, coming 13th overall. He is now only four short. Anyone but dreary Declan Quigley please! You can't work commentating on it for as long as he has next to informative ex-pros without some of it getting in through osmosis at the least. "Beware everybody, he is well and truly back!" yelled Carlton Kirby on Eurosport commentary. For mine, Carlton is the perfect commentator for the 'early shift' on long, flat grand tour stages. VN:Whats it like calling a race from back home at the studio? Le point sur la situation de Yoann Offredo. Thats when it down to you and not the riders.. James and Joe catch up with the chosen son of cycling commentary, Carlton Kirby. He is thinking Champs Elysees. Hence, To be qualified to fill up that huge amount of time is, quite naturally, a daunting job. Bit harsh, Quigley is a lot more knowledgeable. And it is at that point, Cav comes out of the shadows to mug him at the line. . Its the press guys we see more, because of the mechanics of the day. Eurosport's lead cycling commentator Carlton Kirby presents a weekly guide to everything that's NOT happening in the sport . Its a case of trying to keep everybody amused. So, our information can be slightly second-hand. Once they pass by, they have to repass the peloton to get the shots they want later on. And alongside everything going on in his ear and on the screens in front of him, Kirby says the booths themselves can be a sourceof distraction from the job of commentating. 2023 Eurosport, a Warner Bros. My primary issue with Carlton Kirby is that he doesn't commentate on what is happening (he rambles whatever is inside his head). Eurosport's commentator Carlton Kirby has called hundreds of races throughout his career, both on-site and from the studio. Can you imagine Paris-Roubaix with Kirby commentating? Proper all rounder. There has to be some kind of distance applied and minimal standards of what is needed. 35m is 100ft. All of that is avoidable if you have the right distance and the right protocol in place. Kittel did win stage four, but then Cavendish beat him again on stage six. And suddenly some feel like a part of the race. It is not general knowledge, and it should be. We have to get him off eurosport. There are no gaps you might shut up for five seconds or so to listen to the crowd, but thats it.. 1/9/22 4.2km to go, Stage 12 Vuelta a Espana: the riders are going uphill.Kirby: as they get to this step, but it doesnt last long, its like your mums old step, give it a polish, give it a clean and then a clean pair of heels to everybody else. We've asked Colnago for more details but they just shrugged their shoulders in reply. He also never tells you who the riders on screen are - and if he does, he's usually wrong. I changed to German commentary on eurosport international today I was so mad. but the bike was nowhere to be found!" he's saving his energy. As well as sports commentary his voiceover work includes corporate videos and feature films as well as radio and television advertising. I think you need to be a specialist to be a cycling commentator, yet he covers several sports on Eurosport. Punching the handlebars is the almost universal sign of frustration at losing. Ive been up the Galibier. The commentary line-up will include regular voices Rob Hatch and Carlton Kirby, who will also joined by cycling legend Sean Kelly at all three major races. The prodigious British riderTao Geoghegan Hart laid into Kirby's"outrageous claims", and Owain Doull also chipped in to describe Kirby as a "proper muppet". Thomas De Gendt launched a solo attack from the break with 60 kilometres remaining of todays opening stage of the Volta a Catalunya, covering 163 kilometres and starting and finishing in Calella and the Lotto-Soudal rider now finds himself with a lead of almost three minutes on his rivals. It is exciting being in a vast peloton, and the less experienced ones almost engage with it. Rob Hatch is apparently also good but he doesnt do very much that I've seen. But, being in the studio means there is a considerable loss of interaction. Seriously. I realise that commentating on a race involving nearly 200 riders is challenging, but since 1986 I have always been able to follow what is going on thanks to the commentary. As for the Sky Team Fans member - you wouldnt actually be Mr Kirby would you ???? Even once the race itself is over, and the post-analysis is done, theres a second race to get away from the finish line. Eurosport will never get rid of Carlton Kirby, he receives so much fan-mail that it will far out way any negative feedback they get from him. Carlton Kirby Kirby is the most marmite commentator there is. Tech, reviews: tech [at] road.cc I'm not sure if it was security, medical or a photographer who hit him, but essentially there was braking with four riders on the ground and the bike flipped before landing on the riders. Best known for his work on Eurosport, his voice has also appeared on BBC, ITV, Channel 4, Motors TV, Cycling TV, Speed Channel USA, ABC Australia, SABC South Africa, Canal Plus France, Canal France International and more. Where is the central body that has its own rules of discipline and rules of engagement that respect distance protocol and passing protocol under the race director? This afternoon, I yet again, tolerated his insulting drivel on the Dauphine. Kittel is not a broken man, but his supremacy has tumbled because Mark Cavendish has only gone and won four stages here. Kittel was completely shocked, and has been getting more and more upset as this Tour has gone on. The Vuelta a Espana used to be the worst of the Grand Tours because theyd have transitions day of 250km across a desert. Talk about what you know. Well then I propose a CN forum audio livestream for the tour de france. But it is also true that there isnt a dearth of genuine fans of Kirby who really appreciate his vast knowledge on the field. The breaks going to go up the road, theyre going to be allowed anything up to 15 minutes of an advantage and everyone else is just having a chat including us., All the other commentators from all the other nations and all their information are in the same room, so you often get people saying: Have you heard this?, with loads of things to share. We usually have to drive to the finish line, which is where the commentary positions normally are theyre like double-decker coaches all lined up there, Kirby sayd. She talks about the background to the petition, which you can sign here, in this video. CK:I think not many people will notice. Whilst im not Carltons biggest fan (prefer Backstead w Harmon) I very much doubt I could talk for between 1 and 5 hours without descending into complete nonsense from time to time. There have always been deaths since the early 1900s from vehicle-related incidents. Kirby laughs. So, what is Scottish Cycling / British Cycling doing about this? During a long interview, the legendary veteran commentator of Eurosports shares some of his knowledge about the job. When Cavendish won again on stage 14, Kittel just fell to pieces emotionally. A lot of these guys seems to have free rein on what they are doing. But not today in the Vuelta or yesterday, and this is the first time I have heard Kirby commentating. Eurosport's Carlton Kirby. And somebody asked me, why dont you pronounce his name Foo-gel-sang instead ofFoolsong. For example, I know that Jakob Fuglsangs last name means bird song, which is a nice little thing. Owned by Warner Bros. You are as ill informed as Kirby. ). Now it is live pictures going onto blogs, stream TV pictures. Went for a bike ride earlier today. It just stays online forever. Its quite nice at the Tour de France that we have a roadbook and a history book of everything were going through. Carlton Kirby discusses the art of commentary, says thank you to those who enjoy listening to him. Of all the criticisms that can be leveled at him (not recognising riders, not admitting he doesn't recognise a rider), being only interested in angolophone riders isn't one of them. As just one example, the long list of criticisms he has levelled at Thibault Pinot. However, a lot of his fans understand this and support him. I quite like Kirby. Carlton's voice is familiar to fans of Motorsports and Cycling both on British Television and throughout the world. carlton kirby leaves eurosport 2021; carlton kirby leaves eurosport 2021. Ive fallen off the Galibier. Doesn't look that pretty, cable tied, very practical. Being a commentator is all about improvisation and Kirby knows this quite well considering his huge range of experience. That is common in France and Belgium with a dedicated roving reporter from the race roving all over the peloton and having a chat. Simon Yates drops back to the Peloton in the last 2km - Carlton Kirby: 'Yates has decided this isn't worth the candle' - i.e. Baseless. Kirby is a shockingly bad commentator, but Harmon is not much better. "Commentating on cycling is not like snooker or tennis," says Carlton Kirby, principal commentator for Eurosport's cycling coverage, who has worked in the sport since 1996. Simon Clarke, who should have won the 2016 Milan-San Remo is just one in a long, long line of things he invents from nowhere and then portrays as facts, banging on about them throughout a season. I do love the sport because its a crescendo sport. I tweeted quite a few comments which clearly annoyed him. You get the atmosphere and emotion of a place. I like Kelly just out of respect more than anything. What a load of rubbish - Team Sky Fan !! I don't think much does get through to him, I really wish it did. . For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Cavendish swept to his second win at the Tour of Turkey with another . I think people will appreciate what were trying to deal with. And we have managed to cover his view on it. As is seen in most cases, the primary action of any game takes place during the outset and ending parts. When actually its just hand-written sheet of notes to recall from.. And then, of course, there are the flat stages and the sprint finishes. See the recording of the last Carlton Kirby Zoomcast hereEnjoy our vintage/summer Parisian Spotify playlist (plus Little Italy by Stephen Bishop, not French, don't write in) hereSee Carlton's Set the scene for us. After my tweet he at least toned that down. Not that itsa straightforward drive to the finish at the Tour, as Kirby explains. Tao Geoghegan Hart (@taogeoghegan) March 25, 2019. My Ultimate Commuter, rebuilding her at the moment, everything external. There's also his lack of knowledge. I think as well that audiences will be sympathetic, so even if they know were not there, we will be upfront and honest about it. Brentford today angry guy in grey car can't see why he should wait till it's safe to overtake hoots horn, shouts abuse and 100 yards later I'm in front again anyway. Read our full Privacy Policy as well as Terms & Conditions. Mark is already the greatest sprinter there has ever been. We cant do that when hes at his house and Im at mine. Even my partner, who doesn't watch cycling, could tell who had won. But there are always other lines to cross, and he just loves collecting these plaudits and the deserved success coming his way is just brilliant. Harmon LOVES cycling, cycling history, and even riders who don't speak English. Unlike other sports, the practicalities of cycling dont change, and doing this remotely is not at all a good idea, but the situation makes all helpless. I talk about the same stuff, except Im making it up. He has been commentating on the Tour de France since 2009, and his deep knowledge of the race and the riders makes him one of the most respected commentators in the sport. Log in or register to join the conversation. Win! Antoine Demoitie tragically died after being hit by a motorbike. pic.twitter.com/TkvUUUeBXs. And then on day one on Utah beach..boom..Cavendish stuns the previously unbeatable German racer. Also add in several alert mobile keyholders. and clearly was totally clueless. There are some other sports, like cycling, where the commentary has to be complete. De Gendt, Volta 2019 Stage 1 winner. You have your usual office equipment, coffee machine, and sandwich machine. The current situation has made things difficult, where previously they would head over to the channel to cover Tour De France, now they sit in their studios and practice social distancing and looking at monitors. I often moan about Kirby myself, but I don't. We will never sell your data and you'll only get messages from us and our partners whose products and services we think you'll enjoy. Yep I always watch the ITV coverage if possible - even if that means missing the stage live and watching the highlights package (like the vuelta). why must us cyclists have to tolerate a commentator who has no knowledge of professional cycling. You don't need to be that close to the riders to get snaps. Arriving at road.cc in 2017 via 220 Triathlon Magazine, Jack dipped his toe in most jobs on the site and over ateBikeTips before being namedthe new editor of road.cc in 2020, much to his surprise. Stay tuned! Without wishing to be too disparaging to Mr. Kirby, I dont have Eurosport or the ability to watch cycling live, so I have to make do with highlights. But, Kirby has to do that, without fail. Please enter your email so we can keep you updated with news, features and the latest offers. One thing Ive always been able to do is, I believe, see a very wide picture and a lot of different movement, and call those fast and accurately. Kirbys Knowledge and Enthusiasm on the Mic is Unparalleled, When Kirby explains the difficult process of commentating on cycling, Michael Matthews powers to Bretagne Classic victory, Bora-hansgrohe riders false positive raises new doubts over accuracy of COVID-19 testing, Giro dItalia, Milan-San Remo under threat of cancellation due to coronavirus, Ewan storms to victory on stage 2 of UAE Tour. He is rubbish Eurosport have many other far better options we need a decent commentator not Carltons partridge esque musings.
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